Replacement Telecaster pickups – suggestions?

JMHJMH
edited August 2014 in Root
Hi folks,

I have a Hot Rod Tele from 2008. It´s a great guitar (minihumbucker in the neck, single coil in the bridge), but I want to replace the pickups. I am jonesing for a normal single coil in the neck. Seeing that the bridge is somewhat hotter to compensate for the minihumbucker, it would make sense to change that at the same time.

Do you have any suggestions? Obviously I like Jim´s sound. Other Tele players I like are Ted Greene and Bill Frisell. I am looking for a relatively balanced Tele set that can twang, but handle jazz and rock as well. I have been looking at the ´55 Stagger set by Bare Knuckle from the Blackguard series, as the promise about improved string balance is enticing:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=teles&sub=vintage&pickup=55stagger&series=blackguard

Thanks in advance!

Comments

  • I really like the Lollar Charlie Christian neck pick up. Not sure how it handles pedals, but for clean straight-to-amp sounds, it absolutely smokes imo!
  • Thank you for the recommendation, Jim. I'm having a Tele built right now by MJT and need to select pickups. So this advice is very timely for me as well.

    I noticed Curtis Novak offers his pickups with either A2, A3, or A5 magnets. Do you happen to recall which magnet type(s) you've tried? If so, which would you recommend?

    Thank you again!
  • edited August 2014
    Hi Blue-

    Sorry- I don't recall and I seem to think there wasn't an option at the time. If there was an option, I know I would have gone with the p/u with the most bass response. The p/u's I tried had a a classic output level (not too burning hot) a nice bass response with a pleasant little growl.

    Sometimes I find multitudes of p/u choices a bit overwhelming.

    For example, about 15 years ago I temporarily used a Seymour Duncan a "classic" Tele set of p/u 's and I loved them, but I had carelessly thrown away the box. Four months later- for the life of me I couldn't recall exactly what they were! I don't desire advice or a search at this point, and I'm okay with my p/u's - but the amount of choices and variables was totally overwhelming to me. So, I didn't pursue trying to identify them and now- I can't share what they were. And I lost them!

    Though these manufacturers offer a p/u for every occasion, I sometimes wish there were less choices!

    I'm sure there are many fine minds here, that can offer better advice then me! ha ha

    Yes, Rogerio - Lollar's are good too and who can argue with Redd!

    All the best- Jim
  • All right, the Novak pickups seem like a good alternative! I read in a another thread that they were a reference for the p/u´s in the signature model too. Thanks everyone.
  • definetly contact Curtis Novak if you have a humbucker pickup in the neck and want the lipstick one, he seems to have made a hobby of disguising one for the other, and visa versa...so you dont have to make any routes/mods or it can appear stock or whatever you are trying to accomplish aestetically (and internally).
  • I think I will just buy a new pickguard to accommodate the traditional pickup. It looks cleaner that way too. The new pickup ought to fit in the old slot, or perhaps some minimal mods are required. I don´t mind, since the end result will be out of sight.
  • Thanks, Jim. I'll contact Curtis to see if he remembers. Who knows? He might even recommend something slightly different depending on the guitar and my specific musical taste.

    I totally agree about pickup choices. There are so many, it makes my head spin. I understand why pickup makers do it. They feel the need to offer new products in order to sell more pickups. But it puts people like me in analysis-paralysis mode. At this point, I've listened to so many YouTube videos of people playing various pickups, enough to realize they aren't very helpful. No telling what other gear was used and how much sound was attenuated by the microphone in their cell phone/video camera/whatever.

    At the end of the day, you really just have take the plunge and try the pickups yourself.

    Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
  • Frisell also used Harmonic Design pickups for a while, I think.
  • edited August 2014
    Analysis-Paralysis mode!!!

    Wish I'd thought of that. Nice one Blue Cajun.

    A perfect description of what happens these days. So much gear and too much information to go with it.

  • Look up "The Paradox of Choice," by Barry Schwartz. From the Amazon blurb - I don't know whether I agree with everything in his thesis, but much of it seems right - ...

    Whether we’re buying a pair of jeans, ordering a cup of coffee, selecting a long-distance carrier, applying to college, choosing a doctor, or setting up a 401(k), everyday decisions--both big and small--have become increasingly complex due to the overwhelming abundance of choice with which we are presented.

    We assume that more choice means better options and greater satisfaction. But beware of excessive choice: choice overload can make you question the decisions you make before you even make them, it can set you up for unrealistically high expectations, and it can make you blame yourself for any and all failures. In the long run, this can lead to decision-making paralysis, anxiety, and perpetual stress. And, in a culture that tells us that there is no excuse for falling short of perfection when your options are limitless, too much choice can lead to clinical depression.

    In The Paradox of Choice, Barry Schwartz explains at what point choice--the hallmark of individual freedom and self-determination that we so cherish--becomes detrimental to our psychological and emotional well-being. In accessible, engaging, and anecdotal prose, Schwartz shows how the dramatic explosion in choice--from the mundane to the profound challenges of balancing career, family, and individual needs--has paradoxically become a problem instead of a solution. Schwartz also shows how our obsession with choice encourages us to seek that which makes us feel worse.

    By synthesizing current research in the social sciences, Schwartz makes the counterintuitive case that eliminating choices can greatly reduce the stress, anxiety, and busyness of our lives. He offers eleven practical steps on how to limit choices to a manageable number, have the discipline to focus on the important ones and ignore the rest, and ultimately derive greater satisfaction from the choices you have to make.
  • I enjoyed your post, dear Mouse. I chose Nocaster pickup for my tele (after playing stock for 3 years), because it sounded good, and it was Fender. Not that Fender is the best nor type of alnico or whatever of this pickup. But I dig it. If only I could play as well as the pickup can sound.
  • Option anxiety is a bummer. That's why a can't play a Marshall or Mesa Boogie amp. Way to many knobs to twiddle. Volumes all you need, right?

    I've done some experimenting with tele pickups. Nocaster, Klein, Keystones, and O.C. Duff Buckaroos. That's about it, but my favorite is the Cavalier Nashville made by Rob DiStefano. The Nashville may be a bit too twangy for the OP, but he has other "hotter" pickups like the Lion.

    http://www.cavalierpickups.com/
  • I too can recommend Rob DiS, although have no idea about his pickups. Bought a couple of guitars and stuff from him a decade ago.
  • Another thumbs up for Rob DiStefano. I bought an Allparts TRO-C neck from him for my Cabronita partscaster. Not only was his price less than my local mom and pop shop, he did a beautiful job polishing the fret ends at no extra cost.
  • Lindy Fralin has Tele pickups in more pro's guitars than any custom builder except maybe Seymour; look at TDPRI for comments
    on his expertise with all things Fender. I have a Big T Weider set (Lindy/Analogman); and his first production Wide Range Humbucker neck model in original Deluxe/Custom dimensions, with a Split Single humbucker bridge model are headed this way. And what a
    wonderful cat to talk with and get to know with such ease.....
  • Look at TDPRI for comments on Lindy Fralin's expertise with all things Fender. I have a Big T set (Weider/Fralin/Analogman); his
    first production version of the Wide Range Humbucker neck model in original dimensions, with a Split Single humbucker bridge model
    are headed this way. And what a wonderful cat to talk with and get to know with such ease.....
  • Fralin makes the Jim Weider pickups that analogman sells.... I've liked the pickups I've had in my tele for many many years, but as my playing style moves further away from blues/rock and more towards blues/jazz/swing, I have been contemplating swapping them out for something more vintage/traditional sounding...

    I have also thought about leaving my beloved tele #1 alone, and just buying a whole new tele! If I did this, I would like put a Charlie Christian neck pickup in, I would just have to decide from whom: Vintage Vibe, Lollar, TK Smith.....
  • Ruger,

    I have wanted to experiment with a CC pickup as well, but only have one tele so I have been nervous that it would be too much of a "one-trick pony". While I am really into jazz, swing, and rockabilly, I also like other styles such as old school R&B and funk. Traditional tele pickups cover so much ground, which is what really attracted me to telecasters. I think your idea of buying a second guitar for the CC sounds like a good way to go.

    Living in a small condo in Tokyo I don't have the space for too much gear (which is a good thing!). I've been through loads of different guitars over the years, but I'm down to just two now. A great Fender Japan '52-style tele and the first guitar I ever owned a '91 Fender Strat Ultra.

    The real dilemma I'm facing is that I don't bond with the lace sensor pickups in the Ultra. I just can't bring myself to sell the guitar because of the sentimental value (my father bought it for me in high school, so I've had it since I was 15), and for some reason I haven't been able to bring myself to mod it either. Truthfully, if I'm going to keep myself to just two guitars, I think a better number two for me would either be a Gretsch like Cliff Gallop played with the dynasonics and a bigsby or some kind of a Gibson ES-style guitar with P90s.
  • oooh...... hollowbodies..... now you're talking my OTHER obsession...

    I currently have a Grestch Hot Rod, which is great for most things, but I don't hear it as a real jazz/swing guitar, and a Epiphone Broadway (one of the Korean-Peerless made ones), which is very much in Gibson L5 territory....

    My Gretsch has a P90 in the neck instead of the stock filtertron, because I think it's a better fit for jump blues type stuff, and the Broadway has some cheapo pickup, but suprisingly good.... GFS Surf 90s. Which are supposed to sound like Dynasonics. I can't vouch for that, but they do sound really good in this guitar, regardless of their cheap price.

    I don't a CC in a tele would be limiting at all.... I don't know how it would do for funk, but it should be perfect for R&B type stuff. Check out JD McPherson sometime... all that was played on tele with a CC neck pickup....
  • Ruger,

    I'm jealous of those Gretschs. Sounds like they would be right up my alley. Thanks for the heads up about JD McPherson as well. I will check him out.

    So much good info on this board.
  • Jim,

    Thank you again for the recommendation on Curtis Novak's pickups. I finally ordered a set. I asked if he could wind me a set like yours, and he said no problem (the magnets are A5, by the way). Turnaround time was really fast. I got them in a week and a half (and that included Thanksgiving).

    I just installed them, and they are fantastic: very articulate, full sounding, and (as you mentioned) with a nice bass response. The neck pickup is clear and not muddy. And the bridge pickup is smooth (if that's possible for a Tele bridge pickup) with no ice pick. They sound great clean and overdriven. And the two pickups sound great together. I've tried too many sets where maybe I liked one pickup and not the other. These are just right.

    Best regards,
    Doug
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